No Such Thing as 'Super Skunk!'

[skunkushybrid]

Cannabis users in the UK are yet again thrown into confusion as cannabis is reclassified back to a class B drug. The driving force behind this decision is the momentum of the media in portraying cannabis strains to be much stronger now than 20 years ago. The media dubbed 'Super Skunk'. We all know super skunk is a strain of weed anyway, and there is nothing particularly super about it.

When people think of strong weed, a lot of people would be right in thinking Northern Lights or Master Kush... both of these strains were out many years ago, and Master kush was very popular during the early http://www.skunkskool.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mega_shok.gif's. Weed hasn't gotten stronger there are just more and more people in the UK growing weed. This is what is frightening them and causing the reclassification.

Everyone is sick of getting ripped off on the street weed... after they closed down our supply of weed almost 2 years ago they probably thought they had struck a massive blow in the UK... and they did. For 3 months bud was scarce, only a few had some, and they weren't wanting to part with it. Then we get hit with the grit weed... pissed off a lot of people, and even now my country is still struggling by with damp extortionately priced weed. Of course people are going to turn to a final option, and grow themselves.

This has them scared... they are also going to be closing down, or attempting to, cannabis seed suppliers.

Fucking bullshit.

[jdubb]

Some day, they will allow us to privately cultivate herb in our gardens just like tomatoes or ginseng

[skunkushybrid]

I was talking to somebody the other day, I forget now exactly who it was... and they mentioned something about them pushing us so hard that eventually this in itself could lead to legalisation.

With the media frenzy at stake and people screaming death to the weed, save our kids... we in the UK are facing a massive uphill struggle. Do we allow them to push like this or do we dig in our heels and push back? All we got to do is show them some strength, and we have it.

it's like right now the US and the UK are at opposite ends of the scale. Obama is winning, and will win... hilary has all but conceded and said she will stick by the winner, and together they will most likely take the presidency. America wants change, and they have found their voice with obama. This can only be good for american marijuana growers. We on the other hand are right in the middle of a hate cannabis campaign from the media... and we don't have a single voice standing our corner. WTF is going on? Where is howard marks, he is our leading guru on marijuana, he should be getting air time.

[dankforall]

As I have said before I thought things were much easier in your country. Hopefully when enough closet growers come out and say FUCK YOU we will start to see some changes.

[skunkushybrid]

Nope things are just as hard, well maybe not as hard as some states of the US... but we're getting harder.

ze mentioned something earliuer on messenger about the smoking ban coming into force in Holland... soon you won't be able to smoke in the cafes you buy the weed from.

Don't know how that one is going to work. :/

[email]

But I thought you were Super Skunk, SKH!

[skunkushybrid]

Not super enough to do the thing that needs to be done... there is only one option left, and I think it is already happening. Overgrow. When that place started, it's very intention was to encourage people to grow their own weed. This takes money out of the hands of the dealers, and undoubtedly cuts violent crime and crime across the board. Every day more and more people are joining forums like this, new people wanting to learn to grow their own. This is overgrow, or at least the beginnings of it. The ball is rolling and the further we spread the message the nearer the ball will get to its goal.

[email]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skunkushybrid @ May 14 2008, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4568)</div>
Not super enough to do the thing that needs to be done... there is only one option left, and I think it is already happening. Overgrow. When that place started, it's very intention was to encourage people to grow their own weed. This takes money out of the hands of the dealers, and undoubtedly cuts violent crime and crime across the board. Every day more and more people are joining forums like this, new people wanting to learn to grow their own. This is overgrow, or at least the beginnings of it. The ball is rolling and the further we spread the message the nearer the ball will get to its goal.[/b]

That sounds like a fine idea to me.

[skunkushybrid]

There will probably come a day when even the president of the US has his/her own private little cannabis garden. We don't really need to do anything more than we are already doing.

[40 acres]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skunkushybrid @ May 16 2008, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4635)</div>
There will probably come a day when even the president of the US has his/her own private little cannabis garden. We don't really need to do anything more than we are already doing.[/b]
Wouldnt be the first president with one however.

[kochab]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skunkushybrid @ May 14 2008, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4568)</div>
Not super enough to do the thing that needs to be done... there is only one option left, and I think it is already happening. Overgrow. When that place started, it's very intention was to encourage people to grow their own weed. This takes money out of the hands of the dealers, and undoubtedly cuts violent crime and crime across the board. Every day more and more people are joining forums like this, new people wanting to learn to grow their own. This is overgrow, or at least the beginnings of it. The ball is rolling and the further we spread the message the nearer the ball will get to its goal.[/b]


gee skunk Ive been thinking alot about that lately. Mainly about what happened to ovegreow in the end...
It actually has me thinking of changing my username... Ive become pretty damn well known with this kochab name on riu, I try to be helpful to people and kind and that makes them remember the name well.. Which kinda makes me paranoid. Not sure if anyone else knows what I mean but users make new names quite often because they are too well known.

Sorry to hear that you guys are having so much trouble in the good fight over there skunk...
I just saw this from a member on riu earlier... I thought the shit was crazy...

"Last week Florida signed into law the CS/HB 173 bill-

The law used to be 300 plants and it's trafficing, and up to a 15 year sentence. Now it's 25 plants that's a second-degree felony, which would be punishable by up to 15 years in prison
Even worse, (similar to your situation) In addition, if a child was living in the home, it's a third degree felony on top of the trafficing 2nd degree felony, for having a child living where 25 plants are growing can now land you up to 30 years in prison.Last week Florida signed into law the CS/HB 173 bill-

They changed the law here and if the laws where you live were the same, you'd have some serious concerns, bad enough your looking at a year or so with 27 plants.

The law used to be 300 plants and it's trafficing, and up to a 15 year sentence. Now it's 25 plants that's a second-degree felony, which would be punishable by up to 15 years in prison
Even worse, (similar to your situation) In addition, if a child was living in the home, it's a third degree felony on top of the trafficing 2nd degree felony, for having a child living where 25 plants are growing can now land you up to 30 years in prison."

[menace]

if every grower world wide got together n fought for the freedom of marijuana i think things wud be different... but ofcourse there are thousands of us that wish to stay annonymous and thats the problem... we shud all make a stand n fight , whether we lose or not theres gota be a starting point...
this might sound daft but is there a world wide petition ???? not that it wud help,,

in the uk if it was to be legalized the government wud still make money from it so i dont see there problem..
gordon browns prob got a loft full for all his coke snortin ,goat shaggin pals.. the funny hand shake brigade...pmpl

[tom crudes]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (menace @ Aug 3 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=14664)</div>
if every grower world wide got together n fought for the freedom of marijuana i think things wud be different... but ofcourse there are thousands of us that wish to stay annonymous and thats the problem... we shud all make a stand n fight , whether we lose or not theres gota be a starting point...[/b]

Couldn't agree more, too many people are just assuming that it will just change and become legal one day....I couldn't disagree more. People need to stop hiding and start voting and educating the "public" and even then we still have an uphill battle. I am 34 years old and I do not think MJ will be legal in my lifetime. And when it is made legal, if that day ever comes, I can guarantee growers will still be breaking the law. It's an issue that has gotten so far out of hand that it is going to be hard to reel it back in...we're talking billions of dollars at stake. And since the US is a POLICE STATE, and it is, why do you think they would ever side with Pro-MJ people. I love my country, well sorta, but if anyone disagrees with me on it being a police state just look at the numbers, they don't lie. We have the highest prison population in the world, and look at the the police numbers per capita. Also we have spent about 30 billion dollars so far this year on the Drug War (State and Federal) and 70% of the money and the resources goes towards.....you guessed it, the tamest of all the so called drugs, marijuana. The dollar amount is staggering, so by the end of this year the US will have spent close to 55-60 billion dollars on the WAR, that's just one year so do the math and you will see THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LEGALIZE unless pressured and I think the pressure lies in public education, and even then chances are slim. We also live in a country where people don't vote anymore, if they did we wouldn't have so many messes. Why do you think politicians get away with murder nowadays, cause nobody votes, it's simple in my mind. Halliburton says we can rob the people blind and not worry about anything changing. We can take 60 billion dollars and throw it into a Drag War, meanwhile the education system goes down the tubes. The world pays obscene amounts for oil. We are being led by a bunch of corrupt politicians and corporations...god help us all. Imagine what this world will look like in 20 years...I'm scared for the future.

[ChatNoir]

This is madness! No one accuses a herb!
DEA and Federal Law
This is madness!
THIS IS AMERICA!

[tom crudes]

The DEA is now using contracted thugs, or rogues to enforce domestic laws. Our gov't is just walking all over us, ALL THE TIME.

BTW I like the super skunk propaganda. I think everyone of these corrupt corporations and people who lie cheat and steal should be deemed domestic terrorists, cause they are. THEY are making a mess so they can benefit from it. Greed is bad, and so is terrorism, so what do you call a greedy bunch of politicians selling out the US? Terrorists that's what, man I hope things change. I was looking at Spain, but try and get out of America anymore, good luck.

Super Skunk and John Walters, are hurting people...anothers gain is anothers pain.

[skunkushybrid]

There is such a thing as super skunk, but these mutant plants are either missed or come around too rarely.

I agree we need to fight... but we need to fight together. This is the most difficult thing to accomplish, many people have lives that they wouldn't want to shake up, so in spirit they would be with the fight, but come crunch day they wouldn't turn up.

[tom crudes]

Sorry I got off topic. I know Super Skunk doesn't exist. Over here it was presented more like this...MJ is stronger now and it's gonna start causing some deaths. They say the overdose numbers have gone up, what overdoses? Dude the idiots buy into the hype so we need to educate these idiots. Crunch day is not needed for everyone, guys with families can still educate people without any repercusiions and then let the ones who can carry the load go from there. Sure I am just one person and I am scared as all hell but you get me up there with some numbers and I will do it, hell I been arrested three times already for this nonsense what's one more LOL.

[skunkushybrid]

It is only worth fighting if you are going to win. The way I see it is that the whole MJ community would strt growing right out in the open. Your prisons are full, ours are full. By numbers alone, and blatant refusal to obey a law we would reach a stalemate. They would have nowhere to put us. Maybe they could forcibly burn our outdoor crops, but we could grow some more. They could not stop us. imo

[tom crudes]

Here they would probably build more prisons...they are a business, privately owned and run prisons.

[ChatNoir]

Why can't they just leave people alone?

In Turkey we say "Gölge etme başka ihsan istemez." which means "Do not overshade, I do not need any other beneficence."...

[tom crudes]

Cause crime is a business and we are a capitalist country LOL. So if they can make money off of it then it must be a bad drug for us. Hell it's a plant, superskunk or just plain stronger than it used to be is all bull. How many organisms evolve that quickly, sure breeding a plant is going to make for some very potent strains but the plant itself is no stronger IMO, if it is well then they have something they should be studying very intensely. I mean if a plant can evolve overnight then it must be a important plant to learn from. Evolution takes millions of years, it's called selective breeding and they have done it with every plant under the sun. Corn, tomatos, pumpkins, etc etc why should weed be any different?

Seriously though Skunk over here they tried the whole overdose thing, pot so potent it will send you to the emergency room. Funny thing about that is no one in the health professions seems to recall a weed overdose epidemic. Maybe our gov't is making it all up, wouldn't that be weird LOL?

[ChatNoir]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tom crudes @ Aug 5 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=14889)</div>
Cause crime is a business and we are a capitalist country LOL. So if they can make money off of it then it must be a bad drug for us. Hell it's a plant, superskunk or just plain stronger than it used to be is all bull. How many organisms evolve that quickly, sure breeding a plant is going to make for some very potent strains but the plant itself is no stronger IMO, if it is well then they have something they should be studying very intensely. I mean if a plant can evolve overnight then it must be a important plant to learn from. Evolution takes millions of years, it's called selective breeding and they have done it with every plant under the sun. Corn, tomatos, pumpkins, etc etc why should weed be any different?

Seriously though Skunk over here they tried the whole overdose thing, pot so potent it will send you to the emergency room. Funny thing about that is no one in the health professions seems to recall a weed overdose epidemic. Maybe our gov't is making it all up, wouldn't that be weird LOL?[/b]

Like I told you loong ago in a private message... Cannabis kills.

You can try to eat 750lbs of plant to overdose yet sadly you get your stomach explode or better it's fibres are STRONG you can hang yourself with it.

So cannabis kills, in a sarcastic way... Weird part is killing yourself same way with water is MUCH EASIER!