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harvester
03-03-2008, 11:15 PM
It has been discovered that plants do respond to green light, particularly during vegetation.

During the pre vegetation stage (before seed casing pops off) green light will negate all the negative effects of blue and red irradiation. With stems maturing quicker and stronger.

Indeed if green light is used throughout the entire vegetation cycle your plants will mature quicker and be much stronger than had you used red and blue on their own.


This may be a little 'out there' but it has also been surmised that cannabis could adapt and grow in a pure green spectrum environment.

food for thought.

Your Grandfather
03-06-2008, 12:05 AM
Ummmm, okay, I've had stranger thoughts that proved to be correct.

Got any idea of where in the green spectrum?

I'm thinking about my next indoor grow and between HID's, UV's what is one more lamp

skunkushybrid
03-06-2008, 07:45 AM
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During the transition from darkness to light, the rate of hypocotyl elongation is determined from the integration of light signals sensed through the phototropin, cryptochrome, and phytochrome signalling pathways. In all light conditions studied, from UV to far-red, early hypocotyl growth is rapidly and robustly suppressed within minutes of illumination in a manner dependent upon light quality and quantity. In this study, it is shown that green light (GL) irradiation leads to a rapid increase in the growth rate of etiolated Arabidopsis seedlings. GL-mediated growth promotion was detected in response to constant irradiation or a short, single pulse of light with a similar time course. The response has a threshold between 10?1 and 100 ?mol m?2, is saturated before 102 ?mol m?2 and obeys reciprocity. Genetic analyses indicate that the cryptochrome or phototropin photoreceptors do not participate in the response. The major phytochrome receptors influence the normal amplitude and timing of the GL response, yet the GL response is normal in seedlings grown for hours under constant dim-red light. Therefore, phytochrome activation enhances, but is not required for, the GL response. Seedlings grown under green, red, and blue light together are longer than those grown under red and blue alone. These data indicate that a novel GL-activated light sensor promotes early stem elongation that antagonizes growth inhibition.[/b]

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Monochromatic green light (GL) has been shown to act as a signal in regulating specific facets of plant physiology, inhibiting seedling mass, plant cell culture growth, and light-induced gravitropic root elongating. Recently it has been shown that GL can reverse blue light-induced stomatal opening. The GL response is mediated through a yet-to-be-defined photosensor, and genetic analyses suggest the response to be zeaxanthin based. Plant responses to GL may be initiated through known light sensors. Phytochromes and cryptochromes absorb GL and possibly influence light-induced events. However, the action/response spectra for GL-induced responses exhibit a peak between 540 to 550 nm and thus are incongruous with the absorption spectra for phytochromes, cryptochromes, and phototropins and the action spectra for the responses they govern. GL signals may also be a consequence of low-level coactivation of multiple sensory systems that together guide atypical physiological outcomes.[/b]

The entire article is very long, but you can read it here: http://www.drskunk.com/GREENLds.htm

I remember reading about green light when I first started growing... I was reading about NASA and their use of LED's, and how green light negated certain ill effects of other spectrums (although the tests were done on lettuces). On the lettuces I believe they had purple discoloration and the green led's helped make them green again.

Even back then I think it made more sense to me that cannabis would benefit more from a fuller spectrum.

harvester
03-14-2008, 10:36 PM
It would be interesting to find out if cannabis could adapt and photosynthesise in a pure green environment.

It would need to be from seed and the lamp of a decent intensity. Is there such a thing? This would be a very interesting experiment indeed... I can't think of a better plant to test this theory out on, cannabis has a remarkable tenacity for life.

skunkushybrid
07-19-2008, 10:29 PM
Just over 50% of green light is reflected. The rest is used by the plant to aid in photosynthesis. So why does GL not have an effect during lights out? Why does it not disrupt flowering?

The carotenoids were around a long time before the chlorophylls, and plants can use these to photosynthesise with. The chlorophylls are just better designed for the task. Yet plants have kept the carotenoids... hmmm. Anyway, it is the carotenoids that react to green light, and these work in photosynthesis... so why the fuck doesn't GL disrupt the flowering cycle?

twistyman
07-20-2008, 01:11 PM
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Just over 50% of green light is reflected. The rest is used by the plant to aid in photosynthesis. So why does GL not have an effect during lights out? Why does it not disrupt flowering?

The carotenoids were around a long time before the chlorophylls, and plants can use these to photosynthesise with. The chlorophylls are just better designed for the task. Yet plants have kept the carotenoids... hmmm. Anyway, it is the carotenoids that react to green light, and these work in photosynthesis... so why the fuck doesn't GL disrupt the flowering cycle?[/b]

Morning skunk..Hope I find you well... Thanks for that..I was just about to ask about the GL for grow room and the same effect as a red in a film devel. room..

Answered.......

skunkushybrid
07-22-2008, 10:56 PM
NO prob's twisty... cannabis is like a conundrum... i really need to know how it all works.

anyway, the reason for the carotenoids is because they are more stable than the chlorophylls... in fact the chlorophylls are very light sensitive and are constantly being broken down which means the plant needs to constantly synthesise more. The reason for the chlorophylls development seems obvious, and that is to cope with the high amount of red spectrum in the sun.

This is of course a development from before early plants left the water... I would think

It seems obvious to me that there is no symbiotic relationship between life and the environment we live in. Life has merely adapted around it and made the best of it. This also means that trying to match the outdoor environment may not be exactly what our plants need... rather we need to create our own, an environment more suited to the plants needs. Indeed this has already been proven, aeroponics is an unnatural environment for the plant, so is any hydro system. Yet the results are astounding... simply by creating an environment more suited to the plants needs we are rewarded with large buds. Flowering time may be genetic, but we can fuck with everything else.